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by korey99
Fri Jan 30, 2015 3:42 pm
Forum: Planning, Preps & Running the Race
Topic: Review of our race day
Replies: 3
Views: 1915

Re: Review of our race day

Well worth the investment!
by korey99
Fri Jan 30, 2015 2:49 pm
Forum: Planning, Preps & Running the Race
Topic: Review of our race day
Replies: 3
Views: 1915

Review of our race day

Hello all- I just wanted to thank everyone for all their advice on running our race, and give a report on how it went, in case anyone was interested in the lessons learned. We had 7 tigers, 10 wolves, 10 bears, and 6 webelos I. Inspections opened at 8:30 and ran until 9:15, which worked great. At 9:...
by korey99
Wed Jan 21, 2015 10:06 am
Forum: Planning, Preps & Running the Race
Topic: Big tie-breaking in GPRM
Replies: 8
Views: 2282

Re: Big tie-breaking in GPRM

Great, thanks!
by korey99
Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:39 am
Forum: Planning, Preps & Running the Race
Topic: Big tie-breaking in GPRM
Replies: 8
Views: 2282

Re: Big tie-breaking in GPRM

Ah, I understand. That makes sense. Thanks- I feel better understanding the logic.

The elapsed time tiebreaker rule will still apply for a 3 way tie though, right?
by korey99
Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:11 pm
Forum: Planning, Preps & Running the Race
Topic: Big tie-breaking in GPRM
Replies: 8
Views: 2282

Re: Big tie-breaking in GPRM

I took a careful look at the race results, specifically at 2nd place. Fox beat Gaige head-to-head, and Fox also beat Bryce head-to-head, getting first place in both of those heats. He took 2nd place in his third heat, against two other racers. Shouldn't the tie-breaker rules have given Fox 2nd place...
by korey99
Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:16 pm
Forum: Planning, Preps & Running the Race
Topic: Big tie-breaking in GPRM
Replies: 8
Views: 2282

Re: Big tie-breaking in GPRM

I just thought it was weird to have a 6 way unbroken tie. Does the test data feature establish elapsed times for the races when using points mode? I just didn't expect to have all of the tiebreak rules come up even, and was worried about a misconfiguration.
by korey99
Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:53 pm
Forum: Planning, Preps & Running the Race
Topic: Big tie-breaking in GPRM
Replies: 8
Views: 2282

Big tie-breaking in GPRM

Hello all- I just ran a simulated race, using the GPRM test data feature. After running the den races, I created a new Grand Finals round. I had it grab the top 4 from each den, which is 16 kids total. To save time, I did a 1-round 3-lane PPN. Unfortunately, as I've been warned, there are a whole bu...
by korey99
Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:30 pm
Forum: Planning, Preps & Running the Race
Topic: Accuracy of PPN in finalist selection
Replies: 2
Views: 1518

Accuracy of PPN in finalist selection

Hello all- Following some feedback from my committee, I've determined that using a 2-round points-based system for my pack level race is going to be necessary, but time is limited. If I have ~16 cars and run a PPN schedule, 3 lanes, only 1 round, scored by points, followed by a 7-car 2-round CPN fin...
by korey99
Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:52 pm
Forum: Planning, Preps & Running the Race
Topic: How to make it "more like racing"
Replies: 12
Views: 3065

Re: How to make it "more like racing"

Thanks for the discussion, Randy. I appreciate it. I do agree that adding the bracket at the end might come at a cost. If we did it, and the results didn't match the top elapsed times, I'd be concerned. Passing all scouts on to the pack race is a big no no. I got very significant pushback from some ...
by korey99
Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:28 pm
Forum: Planning, Preps & Running the Race
Topic: How to make it "more like racing"
Replies: 12
Views: 3065

Re: How to make it "more like racing"

My "King of the Hill" race has some separate time allotted, not included in that 2 hours, which is good. The problem I have with the 2-round system is that it's going to weird to explain why, for the first den (let's say it has 6) we did something different than for the next den, which might have 8....
by korey99
Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:07 pm
Forum: Planning, Preps & Running the Race
Topic: How to make it "more like racing"
Replies: 12
Views: 3065

Re: How to make it "more like racing"

I'm racing 4 dens, each of which will have ~8-10 kids. I figured I could do all four dens of den level racing in 2 hours, using the twice around 3 lane PPN elapsed time racing. I wouldn't want to go that much more than that. I could draw for random lanes for the "final four", or allow the higher see...
by korey99
Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:27 pm
Forum: Planning, Preps & Running the Race
Topic: How to make it "more like racing"
Replies: 12
Views: 3065

Re: How to make it "more like racing"

Thanks all. I'm talking about a den of maybe 8 or 9, and I'm time limited, so while I'd love to do a full 2-run 3-lane PPN, followed by a 7-car PN, that'd be a little silly, since maybe only one guy wouldn't make the 2nd round. The desire to have elimination racing does have a historical component t...
by korey99
Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:10 pm
Forum: Planning, Preps & Running the Race
Topic: How to make it "more like racing"
Replies: 12
Views: 3065

How to make it "more like racing"

I've presented my pinewood derby plan to my committee, and one piece of negative feedback I'm trying to address is that elimination racing "feels like racing." It's exciting, and it's head to head. My PPN schedule using elapsed times is unsatisfying on that regard. I'm using elapsed time because we ...
by korey99
Sun Jan 11, 2015 7:00 pm
Forum: Planning, Preps & Running the Race
Topic: Advancing EVERYONE to pack finals
Replies: 7
Views: 2347

Re: Advancing EVERYONE to pack finals

I got some feedback from some of my other leaders that this is a bad idea. They see advancing to the pack "finals" as a privilege, and liken opening the pack race to everyone to giving everyone a trophy. That was something I hadn't thought of, and their objection is firm enough that we won't be doin...
by korey99
Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:13 pm
Forum: Planning, Preps & Running the Race
Topic: Pack finals race advice needed
Replies: 13
Views: 2786

Re: Pack finals race advice needed

Thanks for all the advice and help! I'm going to say we'll go with my wife's plan. It's pretty clever.