After looking at the rules for wheel placement, I noticed I don't need to use the standard axel slots, but maintain a 4 1/2" separation. Now if I moved the left side rearward and the rightside forward, would I be able to have a car that is similar to a extended wheelbase?
Thanks
Fat Elvis
Offset wheels
Offset wheels
The Fat Man has left the Building
- FRANKLIN WHALEY
- Master Pine Head
- Posts: 152
- Joined: Sat Oct 02, 2004 9:12 am
- Location: SOUTH CAROLINA
Re: Offset wheels
That wheel placement would let you put the COG farther back. It's still not going to give you all the benefits of a true extended wheel base. If I were you, before I built it. I would contact the derby chairman. It would depend on their ruling at inspection, but if I'm thinking correctly. Your right front and left rear would have almost six inches of seperation. Doesn't sound within the rules to me! But I like seeing people think outside the box!!
BE A FISHER OF MEN!
- Stan Pope
- Pine Head Legend
- Posts: 6856
- Joined: Sat Jul 05, 2003 7:01 pm
- Location: Morton, Illinois
- Contact:
Re: Offset wheels
fat e,
Interesting thoughts! Good things can happen when you think outside the box... sometimes.
Even if the offset were legal, the offset wheelbases are probably less valuable than your ability to push the rear axles back to the limit, and, therefore, push your CM back to the limit!
The value of offset axles seems to be mainly reduced losses from bad track section joints. I don't know how small the offset can be and still help, and I'm sure that the the bigger the bump, the more offset is needed to minimize the loss. But, I think that if it takes more than a half inch, you really need to replace that track! Or keep quiet and work on your loss minimization techniques ... integrated wood springs and offset axles.
Interesting thoughts! Good things can happen when you think outside the box... sometimes.
Even if the offset were legal, the offset wheelbases are probably less valuable than your ability to push the rear axles back to the limit, and, therefore, push your CM back to the limit!
The value of offset axles seems to be mainly reduced losses from bad track section joints. I don't know how small the offset can be and still help, and I'm sure that the the bigger the bump, the more offset is needed to minimize the loss. But, I think that if it takes more than a half inch, you really need to replace that track! Or keep quiet and work on your loss minimization techniques ... integrated wood springs and offset axles.
Stan
"If it's not for the boys, it's for the birds!"
"If it's not for the boys, it's for the birds!"
Re: Offset wheels
I've wondered if one could also use the offset to make a variable force rail-rider. Intuitively, during the transition section of the track, it seems like the car will experience a turning moment toward the forward set rear wheel (the car has to tilt toward that side to keep three wheels on the track). Since things tend to get squirrelyest in the transition, rail riding force could be maximized during the transition with the offset and reduced on the drop and flats.Stan Pope wrote:
The value of offset axles seems to be mainly reduced losses from bad track section joints.
Ken