$5,000 Pinewood Derby Showdown Coming To Wisconsin

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$5,000 Pinewood Derby Showdown Coming To Wisconsin

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Seems that the registration deadline has already past. If you are in the neighborhood, it might be fun to stop in and see the action.

https://www.walworthcountyfairgrounds.c ... y-showdown

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gpraceman wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 3:28 pmSeems that the registration deadline has already past. If you are in the neighborhood, it might be fun to stop in and see the action.
What fun! The rules no longer seem to be posted at that site (probably due to the registration deadline having passed), but this looks to be a copy of the 2024 rules.

Youth 1st Place $1,500, Youth 2nd Place $750, Youth 3rd Place $250 in two age divisions ($5000 total). There is also an outlaw ("Mentor") race having an 8 oz weight limit, having an additional $100 prize for 1st place.

Elkhorn, WI was once a manufacturing focus for American musical instruments (not to be confused with Elkhart, IN). Much of that type of business has moved to Asia now (like so many other things nowadays), but Getzen / Edwards still make high-quality brass instruments there... I've long thought that it would be neat to see their plant in person!
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FatSebastian wrote:
gpraceman wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 3:28 pmSeems that the registration deadline has already past. If you are in the neighborhood, it might be fun to stop in and see the action.
What fun! The rules no longer seem to be posted at that site (probably due to the registration deadline having passed), but this looks to be a copy of the 2024 rules.
Those are the current rules for this year's race.....2024.

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gpraceman wrote:Seems that the registration deadline has already past. If you are in the neighborhood, it might be fun to stop in and see
We'll be there, so if anyone stops by, say hello!

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Loud2ns wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 9:10 pmWe'll be there, so if anyone stops by, say hello!
Racing, or just observing? :eager:
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FatSebastian wrote:
Loud2ns wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 9:10 pmWe'll be there, so if anyone stops by, say hello!
Racing, or just observing? :eager:
My three boys and I will be racing.

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Loud2ns wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 12:09 amMy three boys and I will be racing.
:thumbup: Please report back with outcomes and observations!
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FatSebastian wrote:
Loud2ns wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 12:09 amMy three boys and I will be racing.
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Will do that. We're hoping for a little better results than last year, even though we did quite well.

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Loud2ns wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:52 amWe're hoping for a little better results than last year, even though we did quite well.
So... how'd it go this year? :eager:
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FatSebastian wrote:
Loud2ns wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:52 amWe're hoping for a little better results than last year, even though we did quite well.
So... how'd it go this year? :eager:
Not good. Unfortunately, we got dq'd in tech. So, no racing for us. We could have raced for fun, but be ineligible for the prize money. My kids were pretty upset, so we left. Big bummer.

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Loud2ns wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 2:44 pm
FatSebastian wrote:So... how'd it go this year? :eager:
Not good. Unfortunately, we got dq'd in tech. So, no racing for us. We could have raced for fun, but be ineligible for the prize money. My kids were pretty upset, so we left. Big bummer.

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gpraceman wrote:
Loud2ns wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 2:44 pm Not good. Unfortunately, we got dq'd in tech. So, no racing for us. We could have raced for fun, but be ineligible for the prize money. My kids were pretty upset, so we left. Big bummer.

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The front wasn't 1.75" between the axles on all 3 cars.

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Loud2ns wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 3:38 pmThe front wasn't 1.75" between the axles on all 3 cars.
Presuming this rule was the culprit...
"Do Not Alter The Width Of The Car At The Axles"
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Loud2ns wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 3:38 pmThe front wasn't 1.75" between the axles on all 3 cars.
Presuming this rule was the culprit?
"Do Not Alter The Width Of The Car At The Axles"
Yes, that is what they said. But altered from what? They said a stock block, which is nowhere in the rules.
They also have a track clearance rule of 1⅝. This isn't ever an issue with a stock block, so why is that in there?
Keep in mind that last year, this wasn't an issue. Same rules. They got complaints about, you guessed it, the fast cars. So, purely an interpretation change with no warning as to a different meaning. Hopefully, they update the rule to say plainly 1.75". If that was the case, we would have made sure to be good there. We were 3 of 8 cars dq'd for this. So, a common misunderstanding of what I would say is a vague rule.

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Loud2ns wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:02 pmKeep in mind that last year, this wasn't an issue. Same rules.
Yes, it is possible to find copies of the 2023 rules online and that same rule is there. If I had read that rule, I might have interpreted it less strictly to intend that "the car must accommodate the width of the guide rail." If you were allowed to race last year with the same configuration, the meaning of the rule had been presumably set by precedent.
Loud2ns wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:02 pmWe were 3 of 8 cars dq'd for this.
:thinking: Just curious, how many racers are attracted by a purse of this size? Dozens? Hundreds?
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